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Title: Building a new Desktop
Description: I am building gaming computer...


NogardNavihs - July 18, 2006 03:43 AM (GMT)
Okay, i need help building a gaming computer i want.
I have been to:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/
http://www.newegg.com/
http://www.outpost.com/

Newegg is good for ram, and tigerdirect is good for a lot of overstocked stuff.
So far i found out i want 1 gig RAM, 512 video card with TV out. ( i haven't had much time to think about this at all.)

I don't know much about the hardware so i need help in deciding a videocard. I think my best bet is a Nvida GeForse Card.

I need to know what each detail stands for and such.


Also, i need to know any other good realiable websites i could fine parts on.

For a motherboard i am thinking about getting an Athlon because i have heard that they are realiable.

I also need help with the processor, because i know NOTHING ABOUT THEM (except for the fact that everything your computer uses has to run through your processor)

I also need to know how to find out if the parts are compatible with eachother.

So yeah, if anybody has time to help me, that would be great.


I have also been looking up an already built computer to find out if buying better parts for it would be cheaper then just building it itself.

Ohh, and i am probably going to have a $1000 spending limit.
I am hoping not to spend all that much but that is probably what i am willing to spend at this moment. And my purchases are going to be when i have the money and after i think about it for a while.

Thanks.

Liminality - July 18, 2006 06:04 AM (GMT)
i dont think anyone on this forum knows that much about building computers and stuff, although i could be wrong. good luck though :)

NogardNavihs - July 18, 2006 08:40 PM (GMT)
Ohh, okay, i was just wondering if anybody had a video card (or anything) and loved it or if anybody could tell me what not to buy and such.

NaotaInko - July 18, 2006 08:52 PM (GMT)
I could ask my friend who builds computers all the time, they'll probably know how to help.

Thome - July 18, 2006 09:10 PM (GMT)
I would say that for a gaming computer you'd want an athalon 64, and maybe a gigabyte chip set. And I couldn't tell ya what type of video card you would want. that would depend a lot.

Oh yeah, and also go with the cross phase program building. That way the PROM, will automatically be transfered to your RAM when you need it. It's so cool to use while you're building a program.

And go for duel channeling ram slots, that way you can access BOTH of your RAM chips at the same time, which is once again the coolest thing ever.

NogardNavihs - July 18, 2006 09:41 PM (GMT)
YEah, i was already planning on Duel Channeling.
I just need a few hours a day to look up stuff and talk with people and such in order for everything to go well.
I got a friend coming who will help me build it so i will probably go through all of this and we will sit down and decide what i want my computer to be and such.

Sohryu - July 18, 2006 09:55 PM (GMT)
The Most Expensive Most likly is the Best.

NogardNavihs - July 19, 2006 03:00 AM (GMT)
Yeah, but i wanna know what they do so i am not just buying something that is expensive that i HOPE is good.
I realize that the 512 MB is what most of the newer games play best at so that why i am sticking with that.
I'll probably get this all worked out once i get a little bit of free time.

But any other usufull information would be very benificial to my search for a new comptuer.

blue_impulse - July 19, 2006 03:27 AM (GMT)
Vincent Valintine knows how to build computers.

NogardNavihs - July 19, 2006 03:31 AM (GMT)
Okay, thanks.
If i get more time on my hands i will do what needs to be done.
I am lucky to even get this time away from doing my parents manual labor.
^.^
a break from work that i don't get paid for.

NaotaInko - July 19, 2006 03:33 AM (GMT)
I get paid for my parents manual labor. ^_^

Anyway I thought there was something better then 512MB?

NogardNavihs - July 19, 2006 05:41 PM (GMT)
well i don't get paid because my parents are.......nvm.

Well i found out what i am getting for my comptuer.
When i get the time i will post it here.
Me and one of my other friends chatted and found out what i wanted.
and i am not getting a 512 mb video card. I'll explain later.

But thanks everyone

NaotaInko - July 19, 2006 05:46 PM (GMT)
Evil assassions of the underworld, bent on destorying all that is rightgeous and kick ass?


Well, anyway good luck on the computer, hope it turns out well.

Sohryu - August 1, 2006 05:44 AM (GMT)
Well all i know is that Soon im gana Build a new one.. But In 6th months it will Be out of Date so... Well i Wish THee will Fine Citizen

NogardNavihs - August 1, 2006 09:05 PM (GMT)
It will take less then 6 months. Hey has anybody heard of the new Core Duo from Intel It is 20% better then AMD and is cheaper.
I will probably stick with that but the motherboards are alot more expencive considering it just came out.
>.<
My budget will exceed the 900 bucks i wanted it to stay under.
Ohh well, ill love it.
^.^

NaotaInko - August 1, 2006 11:56 PM (GMT)
Lucky! I'm too poor to afford any of that stuff, plus I really have almost no clue what you're talking about. . .anywho, sounds like you'll have a really good computer.

Sohryu - August 2, 2006 08:06 AM (GMT)
i have a Good one.... Its a Gaming Computer Just under Ailenware.... I dident Build it.. We had a Friend Do it ^_^

blue_impulse - August 2, 2006 08:59 AM (GMT)
Ailenware is the best for gaming on computer.
I gotta buy one(when I have some money). :lol:

NaotaInko - August 2, 2006 03:22 PM (GMT)
How much money is an alienware?

dematteisRED - July 23, 2007 01:11 AM (GMT)
I wouldn't use tigerdirect it's good for nothing and for n00bs.

you want an AMD 64 + mobo with DDR ram + PCI express compatible + ATI radeon pCI express card 512 MB kthx

samurai deli - August 20, 2007 09:00 PM (GMT)
I realize that this is an older thread, but perhaps others looking to build a gaming PC can benifit...

Alienware makes super awesome PC's with good specs. Especially with the slower running Windows Vista, Alienware specs makes much more sense. But, they are sometimes more expensive than a custom build.

Tiger Direct is good to get ideas, but they tend to be expensive in disguise. Most of their products are cheaper only after a rebate... and also their shipping and handling charges usually runs 100-300% MORE than the average competitor such as NewEgg. You can test this by ordering something simple like a stick of memory... the shipping is crazy expensive. And if you order multiple items you still don't get a break with the shipping and handling.

I was crazy stupid the first time I build my own gaming PC and ended up spending $200 on shipping (from TigerDirect) for all the parts that I needed. It's easy to get excited over their posted prices and not pay attention to the shipping and handling charges. Not going there again for sure...

As far as specs go, as of now, consider the following:

(1) CPU - a 64bit processor is a must. I've been with AMD for many years now (since the XP series) and have been very happy. AMD processors have a track record for running cooler and also survive overclocking at a much higher rate than Intel processors.

Even if you don't have the cash, consider the Sempron 64-bit processors at least. They have less cache memory than the Athlon 64's but they're considerably cheaper and can be replaced later when you have more money to spend. Just try to stick with socket "AM2" style processors... this is the latest size/form factor and you'll more likely be able to upgrade later down the road if you go with this size.

(2) Motherboard (MOBO) - System builders swear by ASUS, but I've had some success with Gigabyte mobos. If you're looking for a deal, ignore the brand but look for a few specific features: onboard sound (saves you money on buying an expensive sound card), cpu slot size (must match the size/shape of the processor you bought), number of slots for memory, and the graphics chipset they support (I recommend SLI compliant mobos at least)

(3) Memory (RAM) - be careful here. Mixing memory sticks (i.e., capacity and speed) can cause you problems, including a frequently crashing system. Stick with the same brand if you get multiple sticks of memory.

Your best bet is to get the biggest capcity memory stick possible (at this time, 1 GB) and go with at least 2 GB if you're running Windows Vista. Windows XP you can game happily along with 1 GB RAM. 2 sticks of 1 GB each is better than four of 512 MB each... you have to do considerably less troubleshooting if you get a stick (or more) of bad memory.

(4) Graphics card - this is where you want to plunk down most of your budget. Keep in mind that the graphics card has a GPU (its own CPU) which is what drives graphics intesive games.

You can skimp on the main CPU, but try to put down something significant for your graphics card. Depending on your mobo, this may be a PCIe or AGP slot configuration. They are slightly different from each other with the former being the newer variant than the latter.

ATI or nVidia? Tough call. Both have their strong points. If you paid attention and bought an SLI compliant mobo, congratulations, you have access to the higher end video cards from nVidia.

I suggest to go as cheap as you can, with as much memory capacity as you can afford. you can always upgrade later if you're unhappy with the performance of your current video card.64 MB memory is good for your most basic games. For more graphics intensive games, I've seen specs for 128-256 MB minimum.

(5) Hard Drive - these are commodity these days. Brand name is not important but go with a reasonable capacity (200GB +) and as much cache memory as you can afford. Cache = means more speed.

Don't buy a high speed drive (i.e., 10,000 RPM) they're too noisy and more trouble than they're worth. 7200 RPM will work fine.

Serial ATA (SATA) capability, if supported by your motherboard will squeeze out a few extra seconds of speed on the overall functioning of your system. I'm using an just ATA/IDE drive and it works fine... so don't worry if you have to scrimp and save a few bucks.

(6) CD/DVD/Media drive - A DVD ROM capability is a must. CD and DVD burning isn't a necessity for gaming so save a few bucks and get a DVD ROM drive only.

(7) Case - do you plan to go to a lot of LAN parties? Then go with something compact and portable. Shuttle makes a nice line of portable cases. Same with Apevia (my personal favorite).

The compact cases cost more, but they look classy and are easier to transport. If you don't care, cases can run as cheap as $15-30 bucks for the plain beige/putty style.

(8) Power Supply - if you went SLI with your graphics card, you'll need an SLI compliant power supply. Otherwise 300-500 watt capcity should be sufficient... unless you plan to hang a lot of accessories and case mods like uv lamps and fan-lights.

So there's a few tips on building an uber gaming machine on a budget. I've experimented with a few configurations using newegg and most of my designs have come to the $500-$800 (USD) range... before postage and rebates.

PM me or post a question if you need more tips or clarification on my advice. Good luck!

AxS - September 18, 2007 02:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (NogardNavihs @ Aug 2 2006, 09:05 AM)
It will take less then 6 months. Hey has anybody heard of the new Core Duo from Intel It is 20% better then AMD and is cheaper.
My budget will exceed the 900 bucks i wanted it to stay under.

It will probably take less than 6 months, but you're totally wrong with the budget limit. It could go easily above 1000 'bucks'. And goe intel, it's easy, better and much cheaper than AMD.




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